Ep 540: Ordinary Heroes with Bernie Furshpan and guest Mishy Lesser on hmTv

“In this powerful episode of Ordinary Heroes, Bernie Furshpan sits down with Dr. Mishy Lesser for a deeply honest conversation about truth, history, and the courage to act.

Dr. Lesser challenges the way history is often taught, exposing the dangers of “twistery”—distorted narratives that erase Indigenous voices and realities. Together, they explore why confronting uncomfortable truths doesn’t weaken students, but strengthens them, and why moral courage must be taught just as intentionally as academic subjects.

From the difference between bystanders and upstanders to the real-world consequences of inaction, this episode pushes listeners to reflect: When have we stayed silent, and what will we do differently next time?

This is not just a conversation—it’s a call to action.

Key themes:

• The cost of historical erasure

• Teaching truth without shame

• Moral courage as a learned skill

• Turning reflection into action

If you’ve ever thought “I should have done something,” this episode will challenge you to be ready the next time it matters.”

Listen at hmTv.